The shocking double murder of a young couple in Irvine turns out to have been suspectedly committed by a disgruntled former LAPD cop. The female victim is apparently the daughter of an official somehow involved in the suspect's firing from LAPD.
Oh, yeah. He's still on the loose, armed to the teeth, batshit insane, and angry as hell.
UPDATE: Randal Quan, the victim's father, acted as Dorner's legal representation during his termination hearing. And here is the origin of the firing:
According to documents from a court of appeals hearing in October 2011, Dorner was fired from the LAPD after he made a complaint against his field training officer, Sgt. Teresa Evans, saying in the course of arrest she kicked suspect Christopher Gettler, a schizophrenic with severe dementia.UPDATE: unredacted manifesto here.
Dorner denied the allegations, KCBS says.
Following an investigation, Dorner was fired for making false statements.
Richard Gettler, the schizophrenic man's father, gave testimony that supported Dorner's claim. After his son was returned on July 28, 2007, Richard Gettler asked "if he had been in a fight because his face was puffy" and his son responded that he was kicked twice in the chest by a police officer, he testified.
UPDATE: The "unredacted" version above is only half of it. Shockingly, the media have not mentioned the other 11 pages where Dorner reveals himself as a left-wing Obama-lover and die-hard fanboy of the left-wing media including Anderson Cooper, Chris Matthews, Piers Morgan, etc.
Manifesto:
From: Christopher Jordan Dorner /7648
To: America
Subj: Last resort
Regarding CF# 07-004281
I know most of you who personally know me are in disbelief to hear from media reports that I am suspected of committing such horrendous murders and have taken drastic and shocking actions in the last couple of days. You are saying to yourself that this is completely out of character of the man you knew who always wore a smile wherever he was seen. I know I will be vilified by the LAPD and the media. Unfortunately, this is a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name. The department has not changed since the Rampart and Rodney King days. It has gotten worse. The consent decree should never have been lifted. The only thing that has evolved from the consent decree is those officers involved in the Rampart scandal and Rodney King incidents have since promoted to supervisor, commanders, and command staff, and executive positions.
The question is, what would you do to clear your name?
Name;
A word or set of words by which a person, animal, place, or thing is known, addressed, or referred to.
Name Synonyms;
reputation, title, appellation, denomination, repute.
A name is more than just a noun, verb, or adjective. It’s your life, your legacy, your journey, sacrifices, and everything you’ve worked hard for every day of your life as and adolescent, young adult and adult. Don’t let anybody tarnish it when you know you’ve live up to your own set of ethics and personal ethos.
In 8/07 I reported an officer (Ofcr. XXXX/now a Sergeant), for kicking a suspect (excessive force) during a Use of Force while I was assigned as a patrol officer at LAPD’s Harbor Division. While cuffing the suspect, (XXXXX), XXXX kicked the suspect twice in the chest and once in the face. The kick to the face left a visible injury on the left cheek below the eye. Unfortunately after reporting it to supervisors and investigated by PSB (internal affairs investigator Det. XXXX), nothing was done. I had broken their supposed “Blue Line”. Unfortunately, It’s not JUST US, it’s JUSTICE!!! In fact, 10 months later on 6/25/08, after already successfully completing probation, acquiring a basic Post Certificate, and Intermediate Post Certificate, I was relieved of duty by the LAPD while assigned to patrol at Southwest division. It is clear as day that the department retaliated toward me for reporting XXXX for kicking Mr. XXXXX. The department stated that I had lied and made up the report that XXXX had kicked the suspect. I later went to a Board of Rights (department hearing for decision of continued employment) from 10/08 to 1/09. During this BOR hearing a video was played for the BOR panel where XXXXX stated that he was indeed kicked by Officer XXX (video sent to multiple news agencies). In addition to XXXXXX stating he was kicked, his father XXXXX, also stated that his son had stated he was kicked by an officer when he was arrested after being released from custody. This was all presented for the department at the BOR hearing. They still found me guilty and terminated me. What they didn’t mention was that the BOR panel made up of Capt. XXXXX, Capt. XXXXX, and City Attorney XXXX had a significant problem from the time the board was assembled. Capt. XXXXXX was a personal friend of XXXX from when he was her supervisor at Harbor station. That is a clear conflict of interest and I made my argument for his removal early and was denied. The advocate for the LAPD BOR was Sgt. XXXXX. XXXXX also had a conflict of interest as she was XXXX friend and former partner from Harbor division where they both worked patrol together. I made my argument for her removal when I discovered her relation to XXXX and it was denied.
During the BOR, the department attempted to label me unsuccessfully as a bully. They stated that I had bullied a recruit, XXXXX, in the academy when in reality and unfounded disposition from the official 1.28 formal complaint investigation found that I was the one who stood up for XXXX when other recruits sang nazi hitler youth songs about burning Jewish ghettos in WWII Germany where his father was a survivor of a concentration camp. How fucking dare you attempt to label me with such a nasty vile word. I ask that all earnest journalist investigating this story ask Ofcr. XXXX about the incident when Ofcr. XXXX began singing a nazi youth song about burning jewish ghettos.
The internal affairs investigation in the academy involving Schefres was spurned by a complaint that I had initiated toward two fellow recruit/offifcers. While assigned patrol footbeat in Hollywood Division, Officers XXXXX IV and XXXX (both current LAPD officers) decided that they would voice their personal feelings about the black community. While traveling back to the station in a 12 passenger van I heard XXXX refer to another individual as a nigger. I wasn’t sure if I heard correctly as there were many conversations in the van that was compiled of at least 8 officers and he was sitting in the very rear and me in the very front. Even with the multiple conversations and ambient noise I heard Officer XXXX call an indivdual a nigger again. Now that I had confirmed it, I told XXXX not to use that word again. I explained that it was a well-known offensive word that should not be used by anyone. He replied, “I’ll say it when I want”. Officer XXXX, a friend of his, also stated that he would say nigger when he wanted. At that point I jumped over my front passenger seat and two other officers where I placed my hands around XXXXs’ neck and squeezed. I stated to XXXX, “Don’t fucking say that”. At that point there was pushing and shoving and we were separated by several other officers. What I should have done, was put a Winchester Ranger SXT 9mm 147 grain bullet in his skull and Officer Magana’s skull. The Situation would have been resolved effective, immediately. The sad thing about this incident was that when Detective XX from internal affairs investigated this incident only (1) officer (unknown) in the van other than myself had statements constistent with what actually happened. The other six officers all stated they heard nothing and saw nothing. Shame on every one of you. Shame on Detective XX (same ethnicity as XXX) for creating a separate 1.28 formal complaint against me (XXXX complaint) in retaliation for initiating the complaint against XXXXX and XXXX. Don’t retaliate against honest officers for breaking your so-called blue line. I hope your son XXXX, who I knew, is a better officer than you, Detective XX. The saddest part of this ordeal was that Officer XXXX and XXXXX were only given 22 day suspensions and are still LAPD officers to this day. That day, the LAPD stated that it is acceptable for fellow officers to call black officers niggers to their face and you will receive a slap on the wrist. Even sadder is that during that 22 day suspension XXXXX and XXXXX received is that the LAPPL (Los Angeles Police Protective League) paid the officers their salaries while they were suspended. When I took a two-day suspension for an accidental discharge, I took my suspension and never applied for a league salary. Its called integrity.
Journalist, I want you to investigate every location I resided in growing up. Find any incidents where I was ever accused of being a bully. You won’t, because it doesn’t exist. It’s not in my DNA. Never was. I was the only black kid in each of my elementary school classes from first grade to seventh grade in junior high and any instances where I was disciplined for fighting was in response to fellow students provoking common childhood schoolyard fights, or calling me a nigger or other derogatory racial names. I grew up in neighborhoods where blacks make up less than 1%. My first recollection of racism was in the first grade at Norwalk Christian elementary school in Norwalk, CA. A fellow student, Jim Armstrong if I can recall, called me a nigger on the playground. My response was swift and non-lethal. I struck him fast and hard with a punch an kick. He cried and reported it to a teacher. The teacher reported it to the principal. The principal swatted Jim for using a derogatory word toward me. He then for some unknown reason swatted me for striking Jim in response to him calling me a nigger. He stated as good Christians we are to turn the other cheek as Jesus did. Problem is, I’m not a fucking Christian and that old book, made of fiction and limited non-fiction, called the bible, never once stated Jesus was called a nigger. How dare you swat me for standing up for my rights for demanding that I be treated as an equal human being. That day I made a life decision that i will not tolerate racial derogatory terms spoken to me. Unfortunately I was swatted multiple times for the same exact reason up until junior high. Terminating me for telling the truth of a Caucasian officer kicking a mentally ill man is disgusting. Don’t ever call me a fucking bully. I want all journalist to utilize every source you have that specializes in collections for your reports. With the discovery and evidence available you will see the truth. Unfortunately, I will not be alive to see my name cleared. That’s what this is about, my name. A man is nothing without his name. Below is a list of locations where I resided from childhood to adulthood.
Cerritos, CA.
Pico Rivera, CA.
La Palma, CA.
Thousand Oaks, CA.
Cedar City, UT.
Pensacola, FL.
Enid, OK.
Yorba Linda, CA.
Las Vegas, NV.
During the BOR an officer named, Sgt. XXXX, from Los Angeles Port Police testified on behalf of the LAPD. XXXXX stated for the BOR that he arrived at the location of the UOF shortly before I cuffed the suspect. He also stated that he assisted in cuffing the suspect and that’s old the BOR he told me to fix my tie. All of those statements were LIES!!! XXXX, you arrived at the UOF location up to 30 seconds after I had cuffed Mr.XXXX. All you did was help me lift the suspect to his feet as it was difficult for me to do by myself because of his heavy weight. You did not tell me to fix my tie as the BOR members and everyone else in the room know you lied because the photographic evidence from the UOF scene where XXXX’s injuries were photographed clearly shows me wearing a class B uniform on that day. A class B uniform is a short sleeved uniform blouse. A short sleeved uniform blouse for the LAPD does not have a tie included. This is not Super Troopers uniform, you jackass. Why did you feel the need to embellish and lie about your involvement in the UOF? Are you ashamed that you could not get hired on by any other department other than port police? Do you have delusions of grandeur? What you did was perjury, exactly what Evans did when she stated she did not kick XXXX.
What they failed to mention in the BOR was XXXXX own use of force history during her career on the LAPD. She has admitted that she has a lengthy use of force record and has been flagged several times by risk management. She has a very well known nickname, Chupacabra, which she was very proud to flaunt around the division. She found it very funny and entertaining to draw blood from suspects and arrestees. At one point she even intentionally ripped the flesh off the arm of a woman we had arrested for battery (sprayed her neighbor with a garden water hose). Knowing the woman had thin elastic skin, she performed and Indian burn to the woman’s arm after cuffing her. That woman was in her mid-70’s, a mother and grandmother, and was angry at her tenants who failed to pay rent on time. Something I can completely understand and I am sure many have wanted to do toward tenants who do not pay their rent. XXXX was also demoted from a senior lead officer rank/position for performance issues. During my two months of working patrol with XXXXX, I found her as a woman who was very angry that she had been pulled from patrol for a short time because of a domestic violence report made by Long Beach Police Department because of an incident involving her active LAPD officer boyfriend, XXXXX, and herself. XXXXXX is the same officer investigated for witness tampering. She also was visibly angry on a daily basis that she was going to have to file for bankruptcy because her ex-husband, a former LAPD officer and not XXXX, who had left the department, state, and was nowhere to be found had left her with a tax bill and debt that she was unable to pay because of a lack of financial means. XXXX, you are a POS and you lied right to the BOR panel when XXXX asked you if you kicked XXXXX. You destroyed my life and name because of your actions. Time is up. The time is now to confess to Chief Beck.
I ask that all journalist investigating this story submit request for FOIA with the LAPD to gain access to the BOR transcripts which occurred from 10/08 to 2/09. There, you will see that a video was played for the BOR members of Mr. XXXXX who suffers from Schizophrenia and Dementia stating that he was kicked by a female officer. That video evidence supports my claim that Evans kicked him twice in the upper body and once in the face. I would like all journalist to also request copies of all reports that I had written while employed by LAPD. Whether in the academy, or during my 3 years as a police officer. There are DR#’s attached to each report (investigative report) that I have ever written so they all exist. A FOIA request will most likely be needed to access these at Parker center or at the Personnel/Records. Judge my writin/grammar skills for yourself. The department attempted to paint me as an officer who could not write reports. Even though Sgt. XXXXX a training officer who trained me stated for the BOR panel that there was nothing wrong with my report writing and that I was better than all rookie/probationer officers he has ever trained. Officer XXXX XXXX stated the same but refused to testify as he did not want to “get involved” with the BOR’s. Contact Sgt. XXXX ,(now a Captain at Lompoc PD), Sgt. XXXX, and Sgt. XXXXX. All will state that my report writing was impeccable. I will tell you this, I always type my reports because I have messy handwriting/penmanship. I never had a single kickback/redlined report at Southwest division and Sgt. XXX and Sgt. XXXX can testify to that. I never received an UNSATISFACTORY on any day or week. The same can be said within the U.S. Naval Reserves. All commanders will state that my report writing was always clear, concise, and impeccable. Even search my AAR (after action reports),chits, Memorandum’s, IIR’s (Intelligence Information Reports) which were written in the Navy. All were pristine.
I had worked patrol at LAPD’s Harbor Division from 2/06 until 7/06 when I was involuntarily recalled back to active duty (US Navy) for a 12 month mobilization/deployment to Centcom in support of OIF/OEF. I returned back to LAPD’s Harbor division on 7/07 and immediately returned to patrol. I worked at Harbor division until 11/07 where I then transferred to Southwest Division. I worked At Southwest division until 6/25/08 when I was relieved of duty.
I have exhausted all available means at obtaining my name back. I have attempted all legal court efforts within appeals at the Superior Courts and California Appellate courts. This is my last resort. The LAPD has suppressed the truth and it has now lead to deadly consequences. The LAPD’s actions have cost me my law enforcement career that began on 2/7/05 and ended on 1/2/09. They cost me my Naval career which started on 4/02 and ends on 2/13. I had a TS/SCI clearance(Top Secret Sensitive Compartmentalized Information clearance) up until shortly after my termination with LAPD. This is the highest clearance a service member can attain other than a Yankee White TS/SCI which is only granted for those working with and around the President/Vice President of the United States. I lost my position as a Commanding Officer of a Naval Security Forces reserve unit at NAS Fallon because of the LAPD. I’ve lost a relationship with my mother and sister because of the LAPD. I’ve lost a relationship with close friends because of the LAPD. In essence, I’ve lost everything because the LAPD took my name and new I was INNOCENT!!! Capt Phil Tingirides, Justin Eisenberg, Martella, Randy Quan, and XXXXX all new I was innocent but decided to terminate me so they could continue Ofcr. Teresa Evans career. I know about the meeting between all of you where XXXX attorney, XXXX, confessed that she kicked XXXX (excessive force). Your day has come.
I’m not an aspiring rapper, I’m not a gang member, I’m not a dope dealer, I don’t have multiple babies momma’s. I am an American by choice, I am a son, I am a brother, I am a military service member, I am a man who has lost complete faith in the system, when the system betrayed, slandered, and libeled me. I lived a good life and though not a religious man I always stuck to my own personal code of ethics, ethos and always stuck to my shoreline and true North. I didn’t need the US Navy to instill Honor, Courage, and Commitment in me but I thank them for re-enforcing it. It’s in my DNA.
Luckily I don’t have to live everyday like most of you. Concerned if the misconduct you were apart of is going to be discovered. Looking over your shoulder, scurrying at every phone call from internal affairs or from the Captains office wondering if that is the day PSB comes after you for the suspects you struck when they were cuffed months/years ago or that $500 you pocketed from the narcotics dealer, or when the other guys on your watch beat a transient nearly to death and you never reported the UOF to the supervisor. No, I don’t have that concern, I stood up for what was right but unfortunately have dealt with the reprocussions of doing the right thing and now losing my name and everything I ever stood for. You fuckers knew XXXXX was guilty of kicking (excessive force) XXXX and you did nothing but get rid of what you saw as the problem, the whistleblower. XXXX himself stated on video tape ( provided for the BOR and in transcripts) he was kicked and even his father stated that his son said he was kicked by Evans when he was released from custody. The video was played for the entire BOR to hear. You’re going to see what a whistleblower can do when you take everything from him especially his NAME!!!
Look what you did to Sgt. XXXXX (now lieutenant) when he exposed the truth of your lying, racism, and PSB cover-ups to frame and convict an innocent man. You can not police yourselves and the consent decree was unsuccessful. Sgt. Gavin, I met you on the range several times as a recruit and as an officer. You’re a good man and I saw it in your eyes an actions.
Self Preservation is no longer important to me. I do not fear death as I died long ago on 1/2/09. I was told by my mother that sometimes bad things happen to good people. I refuse to accept that.
From 2/05 to 1/09 I saw some of the most vile things humans can inflict on others as a police officer in Los Angeles. Unfortunately, it wasn’t in the streets of LA. It was in the confounds of LAPD police stations and shops (cruisers). The enemy combatants in LA are not the citizens and suspects, it’s the police officers.
People who live in glass houses should not throw stones. How ironic that you utilize a fixed glass structure as your command HQ. You use as a luminous building to symbolize that you are transparent, have nothing to hide, or suppress when in essence, concealing, omitting, and obscuring is your forte.
Chief Beck, this is when you need to have that come to Jesus talk with Sgt. XXXXXX and everyone else who was involved in the conspiracy to have me terminated for doing the right thing. you also need to speak with her attorney, Rico, and his conversation with the BOR members and her confession of guilt in kicking Mr. XXXX. I’ll be waiting for a PUBLIC response at a press conference. When the truth comes out, the killing stops.
Why didn’t you charge me with filing a false police report when I came forward stating that Evans kicked Mr. XXXXX? You file criminal charges against every other officer who is accused and terminated for filing a false police report. You didn’t because you knew I was innocent and a criminal court would find me innocent and expose your department for suppressing the truth and retaliation, that’s why.
The attacks will stop when the department states the truth about my innocence, PUBLICLY!!! I will not accept any type of currency/goods in exchange for the attacks to stop, nor do i want it. I want my name back, period. There is no negotiation. I am not the state department who states they do not negotiate with terrorist, because anybody with a Secret or TS/SCI has seen IIR’s on SIPR and knows that the US state department always negotiates by using CF countries or independent sovereign/neutral country to mediate and compromising.
This department has not changed from the Daryl Gates and Mark Fuhrman days. Those officers are still employed and have all promoted to Command staff and supervisory positions. I will correct this error. Are you aware that an officer (a rookie/probationer at the time) seen on the Rodney King videotape striking Mr. King multiple times with a baton on 3/3/91 is still employed by the LAPD and is now a Captain on the police department? Captain XXXXXX is now the commanding officer of a LAPD police station (West LA division). As a commanding officer, he is now responsible for over 200 officers. Do you trust him to enforce department policy and investigate use of force investigations on arrestees by his officers? Are you aware Evans has since promoted to Sergeant after kicking Mr. XXXX in the face. Oh, you Violated a citizens civil rights? We will promote you. Same as LAPD did with the officers from Metro involved in the May Day melee at MacArthur Park. They promoted them to Sergeant (a supervisor role).
No one is saying you can’t be prejudiced or a bigot. We are all human and hold prejudices. If you state that you don’t have prejudices, your lying! But, when you act on it and victimize innocent citizens and fellow innocen officers, than that is a concern.
For you officers who do the job in the name of JUSTICE, those of you who lost honest officers to this event, look at the name of those on the BOR and the investigating officers from PSB and Evans and ask them, how come you couldn’t tell the truth? Why did you terminate an honest officer and cover for a dishonest officer who victimized a mentally ill citizen.
Sometimes humans feel a need to prove they are the dominant race of a species and they inadvertently take kindness for weakness from another individual. You chose wrong.
Terminating officers because they expose a culture of lying, racism (from the academy), and excessive use of force will immediately change. PSB can not police their own and that has been proven. The blue line will forever be severed and a cultural change will be implanted. You have awoken a sleeping giant.
I am here to change and make policy. The culture of LAPD versus the community and honest/good officers needs to and will change. I am here to correct and calibrate your morale compasses to true north.
Those Caucasian officers who join South Bureau divisions (77th,SW,SE, an Harbor) with the sole intent to victimize minorities who are uneducated, and unaware of criminal law, civil law, and civil rights. You prefer the South bureau because a use of force/deadly force is likely and the individual you use UOF on will likely not report it. You are a high value target.
Those Black officers in supervisory ranks and pay grades who stay in south bureau (even though you live in the valley or OC) for the sole intent of getting retribution toward subordinate caucasians officers for the pain and hostile work environment their elders inflicted on you as probationers (P-1′s) and novice P-2’s. You are a high value target. You perpetuated the cycle of racism in the department as well. You breed a new generation of bigoted caucasian officer when you belittle them and treat them unfairly.
Those Hispanic officers who victimize their own ethnicity because they are new immigrants to this country and are unaware of their civil rights. You call them wetbacks to their face and demean them in front of fellow officers of different ethnicities so that you will receive some sort of acceptance from your colleagues. I’m not impressed. Most likely, your parents or grandparents were immigrants at one time, but you have forgotten that. You are a high value target.
Those lesbian officers in supervising positions who go to work, day in day out, with the sole intent of attempting to prove your misandrist authority (not feminism) to degrade male officers. You are a high value target.
Those Asian officers who stand by and observe everything I previously mentioned other officers participate in on a daily basis but you say nothing, stand for nothing and protect nothing. Why? Because of your usual saying, ” I……don’t like conflict”. You are a high value target as well.
Those of you who “go along to get along” have no backbone and destroy the foundation of courage. You are the enablers of those who are guilty of misconduct. You are just as guilty as those who break the code of ethics and oath you swore.
Citizens/non-combatants, do not render medical aid to downed officers/enemy combatants. They would not do the same for you. They will let you bleed out just so they can brag to other officers that they had a 187 caper the other day and can’t wait to accrue the overtime in future court subpoenas. As they always say, “that’s the paramedics job…not mine”. Let the balance of loss of life take place. Sometimes a reset needs to occur.
It is endless the amount of times per week officers arrest an individual, label him a suspect-arrestee-defendant and then before arraignment or trial realize that he is innocent based on evidence. You know what they say when they realize an innocent man just had his life turned upside down?. “I guess he should have stayed at home that day he was discovered walking down the street and matching the suspects description. Oh well, he appeared to be a dirtbag anyways”. Meanwhile the falsely accused is left to pick up his life, get a new, family, friends, and sense of self worth.
Don’t honor these fallen officers/dirtbags. When your family members die, they just see you as extra overtime at a crime scene and at a perimeter. Why would you value their lives when they clearly don’t value yours or your family members lives? I’ve heard many officers who state they see dead victims as ATV’s, Waverunners, RV’s and new clothes for their kids. Why would you shed a tear for them when they in return crack a smile for your loss because of the impending extra money they will receive in their next paycheck for sitting at your loved ones crime scene of 6 hours because of the overtime they will accrue. They take photos of your loved ones recently deceased bodies with their cellphones and play a game of who has the most graphic dead body of the night with officers from other divisions. This isn’t just the 20 something year old officers, this is the 50 year old officers with significant time on the job as well who participate.
You allow an officer, XXXXXX, to attempt to hack into my credit union account and still remain on the job even when Det. XXXXX shows the evidence that the IP address (provided by LAPFCU) that attempted to hack into my account and change my username and password leads directly to her residence. You even allow this visibly disgusting looking officer to stay on the job when she perjures (lies) in court (Clark County Family Court) to the judge’s face and denies hacking into my personal credit union online account when I attempted to get my restraint order extended. Det. XXXX provided the evidence and you still do nothing.
How do you know when a police officer is lying??? When he begins his sentence with, “based on my experience and training”.
No one grows up and wants to be a cop killer. It was against everything I’ve ever was. As a young police explorer I found my calling in life. But, As a young police officer I found that the violent suspects on the street are not the only people you have to watch. It is the officer who was hired on to the department (pre-2000) before polygraphs were standard for all new hires and a substantial vetting in a backround investigation.
To those children of the officers who are eradicated, your parent was not the individual you thought they were. As you get older,you will see the evidence that your parent was a tyrant who loss their ethos and instead followed the path of moral corruptness. They conspired to hide and suppress the truth of misconduct on others behalf’s. Your parent will have a name and plaque on the fallen officers memorial in D.C. But, In all honesty, your parents name will be a reminder to other officers to maintain the oath they swore and to stay along the shoreline that has guided them from childhood to that of a local, state, or federal law enforcement officer.
Your lack of ethics and conspiring to wrong a just individual are over.
Suppressing the truth will leave to deadly consequences for you and your family. There will be an element of surprise where you work, live, eat, and sleep. I will utilize ISR at your home, workplace, and all locations in between. I will utilize OSINT to discover your residences, spouses workplaces, and children’s schools. IMINT to coordinate and plan attacks on your fixed locations. Its amazing whats on NIPR. HUMINT will be utilized to collect personal schedules of targets. I never had the opportunity to have a family of my own, I’m terminating yours. Quan, Anderson, Evans, and BOR members Look your wives/husbands and surviving children directly in the face and tell them the truth as to why your children are dead.
Never allow a LAPPL union attorney to be a retired LAPD Captain,(XXX). He doesn’t work for you, your interest, or your name. He works for the department, period. His job is to protect the department from civil lawsuits being filed and their best interest which is the almighty dollar. His loyalty is to the department, not his client. Even when he knowingly knows your innocent and the BOR also knows your innocent after Christopher Gettler stated on videotape that he was kicked and Evans attorney confessed to the BOR off the record that she kicked Gettler.
The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants-TJ. This quote is not directed toward the US government which I fully support 100%. This is toward the LAPD who can not monitor itself. The consent decree should not have been lifted, ever.
I know your TTP’s, (techniques, tactics, and procedures). Any threat assessments you generate will be useless. This is simple, I know your TTP’s and PPR’s. I will mitigate any of your attempts at preservation. ORM is my friend. I will mitigate all risks, threats and hazards. I assure you that Incident Command Posts will be target rich environments. KMA-367 license plate frames are great target indicators and make target selection even easier.
I will conduct DA operations to destroy, exploit and seize designated targets. If unsuccessful or unable to meet objectives in these initial small-scale offensive actions, I will reassess my BDA and re-attack until objectives are met. I have nothing to lose. My personal casualty means nothing. Just alike AAF’s, ACM’s, and AIF’s, you can not prevail against an enemy combatant who has no fear of death. An enemy who embraces death is a lose, lose situation for their enemy combatants.
Hopefully you analyst have done your homework. You are aware that I have always been the top shot, highest score, an expert in rifle qualifications in every unit I’ve been in. I will utilize every bit of small arms training, demolition, ordnance, and survival training I’ve been given.
Do you know why we are unsuccessful in asymmetrical and guerrilla warfare in CENTCOM theatre of operations? I’ll tell you. It’s not the inefficiency of our combatant commanders, planning, readiness or training of troops. Much like the Vietnam war, ACM, AAF, foreign fighters, Jihadist, and JAM have nothing to lose. They embrace death as it is a way of life. I simply don’t fear it. I am the walking exigent circumstance you created.
The Violence of action will be HIGH. I am the reason TAC alert was established. I will bring unconventional and asymmetrical warfare to those in LAPD uniform whether on or off duty. ISR is my strength and your weakness. You will now live the life of the prey. Your RD’s and homes away from work will be my AO and battle space. I will utilize every tool within INT collections that I learned from NMITC in Dam Neck. You have misjudged a sleeping giant. There is no conventional threat assessment for me. JAM, New Ba’ath party, 1920 rev BGE, ACM, AAF, AQAP, AQIM and AQIZ have nothing on me. Do not deploy airships or gunships. SA-7 Manpads will be waiting. As you know I also own Barrett .50′s so your APC are defunct and futile.
You better have all your officers radio/phone muster (code 1) on or off duty every hour, on the hour.
Do not attempt to shadow or conduct any type of ISR on me. I have the inventory listing of all UC vehicles at Piper Tech and the home addresses of any INT analyst at JRIC and detachment locations. My POA is always POI and always true. This will be a war of attrition and a Pyrrhic and Camdean Victory for myself. You may have the resources and manpower but you are reactive and predictable in your op plans and TTP’s. I have the strength and benefits of being unpredictable, unconventional, and unforgiving. Do not waste your time with briefs and tabletops.
87 comments:
Crazy f$#@% !
If he'd stuck to dirty cops he might win some fans.
Yeah, why not just off the cops? There is clearly something to the claims in the manifesto, but going after the families is not the way to do it.
All cops should be arrested for perjury in a court of law
tl, dr.
Happy hunting!
they have to deal with what they created.. i been a victim of crooked cops so i KNOW it exist.
I found a website where it has the officers names, and they're not xxxxxxx'd out.
http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/616/02/616_1360213161.pdf
Thank you, Anonymous_
from another Anonymous
I agree with what others are saying. He shouldn't have killed innocent people and stuck to cops.
When did he write this???
I would be scared shitless to be a "high value target". This guy seems to have significant training and intelligence to carry out his attacks for quite a while. When your family is threatened, what do you do? Move away until he is captured/killed. I bet all LAPD are struggling with this.
He is a hero.
They have taken the other manifesto down. Can anybody get the Google cache a version of it I'm on my cell phone only and cannot.
I think he's flipped... all these things that have hurt him and brought him down have injured his psyche. I feel so sad about all of this, so very sad for him.
Kill them, kill all them dirty ass cops
Thank you for standing up to those despicable corrupt pigs. I have personally witnessed and been a victim of corrupt police officers. Bout time somebody did this, I hope you bury a bullet in every one of those fucking pigs faces!!
This is a very interesting situation. What really happened at that BOR? Who Is telling the truth and who is lying? Due to the already double homicide and fear of more, it would be very satisfying to make public the ‘Writ of Mandate’ issued to the court and the ‘Response to Writ of Mandate’ written by the judge on his findings. Dorner, based on his letter seems intelligent. Was his initial whistle blowing an honest report or not?
I feel that the court of public opinion should read the facts as presented. Then as events unfold, a clearer picture can be envisioned by all. We the people should know if the system has worked to exonerate a false accusation or did it cause a legitimate whistle blower to snap.
Good for him. Cops should fear for their families as much as we fear for ours because of them.
mysisterwaskillbyadirtycopiknowhohrhefeels2002
Lets analyze for a second. The orgin of this whole thing is Christopher reporting a dirty cop. The dirty cop does not get punishment for being a dirty cop, because the dirty cop is well connected with leadership that could punish the dirty cop. So, injustice has happened that let a dirty cop continue to be dirty. It has been known for quite some time that the LAPD has dirty cop issues. Christopher was relieved of duty for trying to get the dirty cop fired. His entire campaign is now vigilante work to end dirty cops from having a foothold in the LAPD. Christopher's measures are drastic, but his goal is pure.
No dirty cop should ever be allowed to be a cop, no matter how well connected. This is a clear message that police should not be able to get away with abuse of power. I agree with Christopher in principle, but I wish he would have tried to use the court system a bit more. His measures, though, will bring a huge spotlight on the dirty cop situation in the LAPD. Perhaps this will evoke some true legal action against the LAPD, and right to course of the department.
mk public, I agree with you. What I fear, though - is they will kill him before ever responding to Dorner's challenge for them to come clean.
The Police and Media will pin *rogue cop* to his name and this will be the end-all-hush-all to Dorner's attempts to expose the truths he's writing about.
His message will be lost with the lives of the innocent targets.
He may not be actually going after family members for the most part but using them as a means to draw out his targets. They have a serious situation on their hands but the public now has it even worse for the moment... dealing with a bunch of distracted, jumpy, trigger-happy cops!!! If the public wants this to end swiftly then they need to take advantage of the tactical advantage he has given them. They need to bombard the department with discovery motions about this situation before the crooked cops can totally cover everything up and demand everyone he mention temporarily step down pending an outside investigation, then plead with him through media outlets to give them time to pursue his complaints. These actions might buy some time to let him cool down a little bit and it may prevent him from pursuing the cops' families and children as leverage to force confessions... for a brief while anyways. Remember he wants 1) honor-- to clear his name 2) justice 3) revenge 4) public outcry 5) change-- within the LAPD. Don't make the mistake of writing him off as crazy, not even for a moment, no matter how tempting that may be. He is disparate. He is also well armed, well trained, experienced and possesses a sense of conviction born of wrongful treatment. Make no mistake he no longer feels hope for getting his life back so he is going to do the next best thing...prevent them from ever doing this to another "good guy/honest cop". He is not going to settle for anything less than a "reckoning"...
This is a perfect case for an up and coming investigative news reporter to make a name for himself. I’m not taking sides but this case seems to have an odor. At exactly what point did this guy snap and why? Homicide is never legitimate; but, anger always has a reason whether real or perceived. I NEED TO KNOW, the public needs to know if his claims are real or psychotic as his alleged actions.
CELphilosofizer,
I think you are on perfect point. An open ongoing OUTSIDE non biased investigation of all the facts would most likely stop his current actions. All he seems to want is that the truth be exposed. That may put him on hold at least for a while. And who knows what the outcome will be? Just another psycho or the genesis of an independent review board for LAPD.
It might be a little premature to call this man a "psycho". If you've ever been on the wrong end of a night stick from an amped up cop you might find his manifesto revealing. I bet ALL the evidence he speaks of mysteriously disappears.
Although I do not agree with the way he has chosen to get his good name back, I understand his desperation. I was also involved in a investigation that went on for over a year. I am not a cop but a " dirty cop" harassed me in every manner as my entire department pretended they saw nothing. I transferred out as a dispatcher and hired an attorney due to this ca city ignoring my desperate calls for justice. How would any " hard working female" like to be stalked by a crazy cop with a gun? It drove me into depression and a nervous break down. Department heads will ignore until u sue the shit out of them and my justice was winning. They cop has resigned and I returned to my department. Good day when you return vindicated and everybody that lied and or ignored the problem, fear now! The nice women trying to just work , has returned as a fierce bitch that won't tolerate crap!
I was married to a cop who was abusive to me in EVERY way you can imagine. The local cops were called out to our home. They did nothing but protect him. During our marriage (1996-2000) He told me repeatedly of the things he and his fellow officers did; Plant evidence, lie, protect each other and their pensions, steal from the property room, steal money from drug busts. Please don't hurt the innocent Dorner
If there was a police dash cam video of the initial alleged use of force, none of this would have happened.
Now they have shot two innocent people in Torrance without even identifying them,just opened fire. That is what they are going to do to him. We need to go to the LAPD site and rally for answers before its to late
Although I disagree with the killings, I do understand why Mr. Donner took the path he did. I hope this will bring the needed attention to the corruption in the LAPD and force other police department to investigate their own corruption. I am surprised it has taken this long for someone to go ballistic.
Although Killing is the sad and wrong approach, this guy has seen so much and tried to do the write thing, but vilified, it made him snap. In my opinion, he will never be captured alive. He knows too much.
Anonymous #3
If (Ofcr. XXXX/now a Sergeant) really did kick that suspect which started this deadly circus; I bet her insides are turning to liquid.
BLACK RAMBO
Megalomania is a psycho-pathological disorder characterized by delusional fantasies of power, relevance, or omnipotence.
In Torrance, cops shot and wounded the driver and passanger of a truck similar to the one Christopher is suspected to be driving. WTF is wrong with these cops!!!!
Filthy shit-bag pigs. He's not going to stop until he's dead, but my-oh-my, he'll take as many down as he can. Couldn't happen to a nicer Police Department; LAPD paying the piper in February 2013.
I have never observed more ignorance in all my life. According to most of you unintelligents.....why not just kill every law breaker...why stop at cops? This is why our country is in the state if existence it is...it is failing to address it's problems properly, everything is knee jerk, to include emotional reactions and the belief that everyone is entitled.
This may be the Torrence truck..
LAPD Officer Wounded by Suspect in Riverside
Riverside: Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) officers were shot at as they followed a possible homicide suspect in Riverside.
On February 7, 2013, around 1:45 a.m., two officers from the Los Angeles Police Department were in the area of the 15 freeway and Magnolia Avenue in the Riverside area. The officers were part of a special detail related to the search for Christopher Jordan Dorner, who is wanted by Irvine Police Department for a double homicide that occurred on February 4th.
A citizen approached the officers and directed them to a vehicle that matched that of Christopher Dorner’s metallic grey Nissan Titan pickup truck. The officers quickly responded to where the vehicle was parked and observed an individual in the vehicle who fit the description of Dorner. The suspect vehicle sped away, and the officers followed as the vehicle entered the 15 freeway near Magnolia Avenue. The suspect then opened fire on the officers while they were in their vehicle, at which time an officer-involved shooting occurred. The suspect drove away in his Nissan pickup truck and is currently being sought by LAPD and Riverside law enforcement agencies. It is unknown if the suspect was injured during the shooting.
One officer sustained a non-life-threatening wound to the head, was treated and remained at the scene of the incident. The LAPD Force Investigation Division responded to the incident and will conduct the officer-involved shooting investigation. The investigation will ultimately be reviewed by the Chief of Police, Office of the Inspector General, and the Board of Police Commissioners for compliance with the Department’s use-of-force policy, which states that an officer’s use-of-force actions must be objectively reasonable. Additionally, the Los Angeles County District Attorney’s Justice System Integrity Division will conduct a comprehensive review of the facts of the officer-involved shooting.
let meback track,dorner wasacoward forkilling innocentpeople an apoliceofficer he adirtycowardcopjust likethe one that kill my sister apoliceofficer her self he murder oneof them for her money 2hunderdthousanddollars she put hisnameon heraccounts he stillhas his job mysisterlikeallofficer thereprocetand toserve buthekillher
not to protect herkiller cop still has his job hegives the department abad name allthe officers put there liveon theline ofduty he didntcare he hasto answer one dayto god. iwill alwayspray for all theofficers that get kill on the line of duty.my sister will alwaysbe in my heart .lovehopie
All I can say is I read this and am absolutely dumbfounded....I don't agree with killing the family members but have at it with your former coworkers - guess they feel a bit of anxiety now as you felt in your career working with them...I hope the truth prevails for you in the end but they are on a manhunt for you - you know too much...dam dirty cops for real. Expose them all sir
Those involved know the truth! Best to fess up and save lives now!
PS He obviously will be watching the news for confessions from the LAPD so my previous recommendation stands, for those involved in his termination who know the truth, 'fess up now and save lives. People are tired of being s#*t on and are fighting back.
He was fired for what? When others that did worse are protected and LAPD wants Manefesto read on the radio. Hmmm, there is alot here we will never know after he is dead.
Cops have the job of STOPPING. Many are also angry as an emotional tone. I personally experienced a West Hollywood Sheriff who used to respond to the noise complaints by a crazy woman downstairs against my ex-roommate. I complained about this guy when he made a strong threat of arrest and was inappropriately emotional with her scaring her. I wrote a formal complaint and the next time the psycho downstairs complained about noises from walking across the floor, this crazy Sheriff stormed in with a videocamera and taped me, turning off the camera when he would tell me nasty things, even threatening me with arrest for complaining about him. He kept true to his promise by trying to file a noise complaint in my name, misspelling my name. I wasn't even home, I was at a college class, when he tried to pin me on it. I wasn't able to be charged so it was dropped but this guy was a real hoodlum jerk. He was really vindictive. He's no longer there at the WeHo Sheriff Department but he was a real jerk. A dangerous jerk the way he acted for a mere complaint about his misconduct. Close call for me too. You have to be sneaky about when you file those complaints and it's probably best if you get them reported to mental health services for their misconduct instead of being open about complaints like that.
This is SO fucking entertaining.
I hate cops and I don't care if they die, including the guy in question.
Live by the state, die by the state created psycho, motherfuckers.
This is the most entertaining gunman since the Norway guy.
This guy's reaction and actions to the LAPD is very TELLING about how out-ethics the department must be. He should not be assasinating innocent children or family members. His war is clearly with those who attacked him and he should stick to only those crooked cops and keep everyone out of it. He's created a scary environment of trigger-happy cops all over the L.A. area now. Any men matching his description should stay home and not drive around until this is over,really. If you're familiar with www.Dianetics.org the cops are not CLEAR, so that means they are perfectly capable of running A=A computations, you know mistaking you for him. Already, they shot some innocent people! It's in the news. This situation means the LAPD is dangerous otherwise it would not have created or caused this situation to have occurred. Definitely some outside investigation needs to happen. You cannot have the LAPD investigate itself. You have to have the military come in and do it or something like that.
When he is lilled by LAPD or in their name, he will know his boss will live with it the rest of his life. Come on, it not too hard to follow.
i won't say i feel sorry for the guilty cops cause i don't . this type of thing has been going on for far to long! they need to just confess to their lies i can certainly understand how this man feels, nobody likes to be lied on, What they did to him was wrong that's why people have no respect for law enforcement, i know from personal experience how crooked they are and i lost all faith that i had in the justice system long ago. i have seen dirty cops take bags of drugs from dealers and not arrest them, and then take those same drugs and sell them themselves. i have seen them stick their hand in a drug dealers pocket and take his money, hell what is the dealer gonna do tell another officer that they robbed him ? i remember a whole precient that was cleaned out because everybody in it was dirty does anybody remember the Mullen Comission ?
"According to documents from a court of appeals hearing in October 2011, Dorner was fired from the LAPD after he made a complaint against his field training officer, Sgt. Teresa Evans, saying in the course of arrest she kicked suspect Christopher Gettler, a schizophrenic with severe dementia.
Dorner denied the allegations, KCBS says." (sic)
Shouldn't that read "Evans" denied the allegations?
Here's a link to the uncensored "manifesto" / complaint.
http://content.clearchannel.com/cc-common/mlib/616/02/616_1360213161.pdf
I smell a movie....
Chis ......Youre not alone.......
yea sure ur family people need to realize that karma doesn't just fall on to you, but also your children so be kind...to each other for we would want people to be kind to our children...
This situation is all on you LAPD. All deaths and everything Mr dorner. Does, its all on you. You destroyed this man's name and reputation because he did the right thing. Mr dorner,
I feel for you and what they did to you was wrong and as for the people responsible for this, happy hunting my friend, but going after the families and children is wrong, don't lower yourself to thier level and give them reason to call you a psycho or say you're deranged . Stick to those dirty bastard cops that did this to you my friend. I know that 99% of cops are dirty and I commend you for Not lowering yourself to thier level. Don't start now Mr dorner. Don't lose sight of the code of ethics you've lived your whole life by. You've lived your life as a good honorable man. Don't die any less. Good luck and god bless you.
I feel like a cheeseburger
He's crazy. But i don't disagree with him. He can kill all that have wronged him and even any other crooked cops that he spoke of but at the end he'll have to sacrifice his own after killing so many it's only just. I'd be worried for my family if i was him, the people he's targeting could target his own.
I was surprised to learn that the officers who were beating on Rodney with nightsticks are now Captains. Wow!
This guy is my HERO!!
Looks like they reap what they sow.....
//batshit insane//
Really? And what would you base this assessment on? Killing in war is cool, killing to make a point is "batshit insane"?
He sure doesn't sound batshit insane to me.
this guy is not crazy or insane he wants his name cleared. nobody that is insane will ask people to get foia reguests that is the only way the public can obtain police documents but as usual those reguest will be denied whenever there is a cover up.
What indeed?
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"Off the record, I love your new bangs, Mrs. Obama. A woman whose professional and educational accomplishments are second to none when compared to recent First wives."
"It's kind of sad I won't be around to view and enjoy The Hangover III. What an awesome trilogy. Todd Phillips, don't make anymore Hangovers after the third, takes away the originallity of its foundation."
Everyone knows Hangover 2 sucked.
Stop calling this man "psycho."
First off if you live by the sword you die by the sword so on that note he had made his bed and is prepared to lite in it. Man kind had become nothing more than a parasite to the world while genocide may not be the answer Somthing must be done to preserve our names lives and values we created this nation on and sometimes some things/slash ppl need to be eliminated to preserve a true from of life we need to go back to the simplest and most honest way of life an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth
very true my friend very true
I live around the corner from the precinct that started the mullen commission. the 77th on utica ave in brooklyn. these cops are just as bad if not worse than the LAPD. you can't walk a block to the store without some detective in tinted windows putting his hand down your pants and in your pockets. there are two or three officers in NYPD who came out about stop and frisk and the quota system and they all were fired too and sent to mental hospitals for "being crazy".
Mr. Dorner writes intelligently with credibility and passion. I BELIEVE HIM. There are far too many incidents of corruption within "the system," and there is a notable "Blue Line" system within the LAPD. Cops don't fink on other cops, is their mentality.
I called the LAPD today and spoke to an officer - just to voice my opinion as a citizen. While the office was nice, and I was careful not to be accusatory or belligerent, he clearly had the attitude that Mr. Dorner isn't telling the truth. BUT I THINK HE IS TELLING THE TRUTH. His recounting of police kicking a handcuffed suspect is far too detailed to have been fabricated.
What's a shame is that Mr. Dorner has let his anger get out of control because it's hurting him. I wish he had found an attorney to sue the LAPD for wrongful termination and other charges against him, but it's too late for that now.
Mr. Dorner knows he's going to die, and he seems to welcome that. He has taken this terrible tragedy to the extreme, but in a way, it's commendable for him to sacrifice himself to bring corruption within the LAPD and the government to the forefront.
Unfortunately, nothing will change. People within the LAPD and the government will continue to lie, abuse, and conceal. That will never change. The best we can do is voice our opinions, and try in our own way to prevent further atrocities.
I just wrote the following email to LAPD Police Chief Charlie Beck.
Email address: chiefcharliebeck@lapd.lacity.org
Police Chief Beck,
While it is wrong for Christopher Dorner to kill people, I feel that his manifesto is well-written and credible.
The incidents of police conduct that Mr. Dorner describes are far too detailed to be fabricated. He seems very passionate and insistent that some terrible wrongs need to be corrected within the department. His descriptions of police racism, fabrication, violence, and cover-up don't seem to be made up at all. He seems to have a very clear, vivid, and highly detailed account police misconduct within certain parts of the LAPD.
It's too bad that Mr. Dorner has resorted to violence to make his points, but it seems that he tried to work within the system as an honest person.
Reads like a cleverly crafted leftist propaganda story.
They always have the same themes. White man bad. Weapons bad. Immigration good. Racist! Buy. Obey. Fight Arabs. Terrorist! UN is Crazy. NAZI!!!
I'm guessing we are supposed to swallow this poison with the django pill.
That's the reason LAPD is shooting innocent people, just because they were driving similar vehicles. They are trying to shut him up.
I actually do know one good cop on the LAPD and he was mentioned in the manafesto being the boyfriend of Teresa Evans at the time of the incident. This particular person has risked his life many many times to protect the public from criminals on the street.
Can you imagine going into danger everyday at work ! It takes one hell of a brave individual to do this for work which you have to respect, if we did not have cops it would be a totally different Los Angeles. I do agree there are bad cops there are bad people in all lines of work look at what happened when the banks ruined our economy ! So think again people before talking down the whole LAPD there are people in that group that have protected you and your family from harm and they are trying to do that now in a very terrifying situation. My observation on the kicking incident is why did he wait two weeks to report her kicking the handcuffed man, he should of said something that very day when the victim had the marks correct?????? Who knows what really happened that day really only doner and Evans I hope the truth comes out. My final statement on this there are amazing cops out there and I know one of them. To all be safe
Guess they will riep what they sewed?? 2 many crooked cops..now look @ the out come..smh..
Surprise, the feds tried to edit out the pro Obama rant from the manifesto
http://gulagbound.com/37375/evidence-mounts-per-mass-shootings-causes-sociopathic-progressivism-drugs/comment-page-1/#comment-331042
Last Resort is a reference to ABC's series about a black nuclear sub captain who goes to war against America's corrupt Government.
I agree!
Old saying, one bad apple can spoil the bunch. Cops don't walk around with badges the signify if they are bad or good so since the majority we encounter are bad we treat them all as such. Besides, because you know him he may not be bad to you, but to the rest of the world he can be an ass!
Im glad hes bringing fear into these crooked cops i have family whos been severely affected by crooked cops. They severely beat my brother while handcuffed leaving him in the hospital in critical condition. And fuck that dirty bitch cop!! Im sure shes scared now!
I think the same will happen
Quote "Lets analyze for a second. The orgin of this whole thing is Christopher reporting a dirty cop. The dirty cop does not get punishment for being a dirty cop, because the dirty cop is well connected with leadership that could punish the dirty cop. So, injustice has happened that let a dirty cop continue to be dirty. It has been known for quite some time that the LAPD has dirty cop issues. Christopher was relieved of duty for trying to get the dirty cop fired. His entire campaign is now vigilante work to end dirty cops from having a foothold in the LAPD. Christopher's measures are drastic, but his goal is pure.
No dirty cop should ever be allowed to be a cop, no matter how well connected. This is a clear message that police should not be able to get away with abuse of power. I agree with Christopher in principle, but I wish he would have tried to use the court system a bit more. His measures, though, will bring a huge spotlight on the dirty cop situation in the LAPD. Perhaps this will evoke some true legal action against the LAPD, and right to course of the department"
Took the words right out of my mouth
One has to realize that the Department of Justice is. just as corrupt as LAPD and The Judicial. System....... Collaboratively they all work together t duck you over.
You can take that to the Bank ! Django
Unchained & Trained.. Chris is a True Warrior..
Spot on.
Real shit!!!
U know it will
Dont hurt the children.....
Thats all I have to say
Because they killed multiple family members it was time for them to get a taste of their own medicine
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